Their Inner Defense is the best antifungal I have ever tried.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

No, but I did experience the same as you with the inulin - feeling tired after taking it, so I just stopped taking it. My own personal modus operandi is to not take anything that has the immediate effect of making me feel bad, and I can get prebiotics from a bunch of food sources so I didn’t really see a need for that source of it. For me, Kombucha also was a no-no, but then, I don’t tolerate green tea at all so that is probably why.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Sounds like you are right, Jorge. And I agree with Grizz, you are the forum hero!   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Yep! So glad to hear you are doing so well, Jorge! Have you considered liver/gallbladder for the discomfort (unless of course it is not in that specific area, in which case, never mind)?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Hi Jhan! Good to see your name here (except, also sorry to see your name here because it implies you are having issues?) I stop in here and there. . . Am sooooo much better than I was ”back then” and continuing an upward climb. Most days I feel completely normal, but I still have to watch the indulgences a little. That is so true about LG and foods. I have found almost anything is okay IF the gut is healthy. If not, any manner of food or supp. can cause problems. Best to eat as simply as possible until gut is healed and then try other things. Most people will respond as to what work ...
[retrieve this message]

---

I like it. Good answer, Grizz! :)   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Yup! And then, if you have 40 grams honey in 100ml solution, do you take the whole 100ml each time you dose or is it split into several doses?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Interesting thread. Anyone know how to translate ”40% w/v” into ”I have a jar of jujube honey, how much should be taken”? :)   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Hi. Sorry, but I have never believed in the drink your urine cure. Think about it. Your kidneys’ filter your blood and toxins from your body and then those toxins are eliminated during urination. So, when you drink that, you are getting a highly concentrated toxin cocktail, which to me seems the opposite of what we are trying to achieve here. I know there are those whose opinions differ, and I am no expert, it just makes no sense to me to do this. So, in my estimation, your kidneys are probably dealing with a high concentration of already-peed-out toxins and it is making them work too ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Hi. I think that you are not reacting well to the enzymes. I do not think it is die off. I think they are over-taxing your system. I have learned never to take anything that makes me feel bad within an hour of taking it. That is not die off. In fact, taking stuff that makes you overly toxic (your body is too weakened to properly utilize the substance at this moment) will actually cause candida to flare, which may be why you are seeing more of it now. I think this is a very common scenario on this forum (thinking you are killing off candida but in fact you are increasing it).   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Yes, that is absolutely true - the gut is the cornerstone. Also, just FYI, I got the best gut healing from Aloe juice. I had been using Intestinew, which is also a great product, but Aloe (few sips here and there during the day) seems to have done wonders in just a week of use.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

I have had no issues with any whole-bean legumes keeping candida alive. Corn chips are a weird one, though, for me. I have been eating corn tortillas and chips pretty much all along, but I gave them up a few weeks ago and discovered they indeed had been interfering with my healing. What I am not sure of is if it is b/c of candida being kept alive, or b/c of an allergy/intolerance. And I know from past experience that eating allergens will in turn keep candid alive. And I am not sure if there is a dif between organic and non-organic because of the GMO issue. I will probably check t ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Also, digestive grape bitters can help if you really do have low acid. A couple drops on the back of tongue pre-meal. Very useful. It helps your body make its own acid.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Had a similar experience. In addition to the magnesium and selenium recommended by another, here are things to try. (As you have found out, never take HCL if you have reflux as it will only make the problem worse and you could do serious damage to your esophagus. It can be taken for heartburn without reflux if you think you have low stomach acid. Also, once low doesn’t mean always low. I had to back off b/c I had started making enough on my own and therefore adding more in by pill was too much. It just overflowed up due to the reflux issue. Pure aloe vera juice will help both in ...
[retrieve this message]

---

I don’t think anyone really knows (thus lack of comment from previous q) but if it were me, I would not even consider it. But, that is because I think eating pure, whole, foods without any additives or artificial stuff is really, really important. I have no problem with the 72% - 85% cocoa organic chocolate bars, myself, even though they contain ”some” sugar. Sometimes frankenfood stuff, even if lower in sugar than the regular stuff, can cause more harm than the regular stuff. For me, small amounts of sugar has turned out to be less of an issue candida-wise than how the body can be worn ...
[retrieve this message]

---

I agree with you. I finally got rid of probie pills a few months ago (and no candida flare because of it, though I had feared I might). There was something that just wasn’t working for me, and I couldn’t figure it out. I read they are not the best idea when you still have leaky gut, which I was sure I still had, so I ditched them. I now get my probies strictly from food (yogurt, cottage cheese, raw sauerkraut, kimchee, miso). I think it’s likely that some people who say they take probiotics and then get ”die off” an hour or so later are actually getting sick from the probiotics, and o ...
[retrieve this message]

---

That is so hard to say. I would imagine that having a condition where blood pools away from the brain would contribute to spaciness, but if you are thinking that the base cause of that pooling is fungal, who knows? Seems fungus is ultimately responsible for a lot of things, we are learning.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

You know what? While your opinion is valuable and appreciated, I have been around this block long enough to know that nothing, truly nothing, is what ”everyone” needs.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

That’s interesting. Hmmmm.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

This is just a guess, but you could be re-tracing. Detoxing usually happens in stages because if it happened all at once you’d be too overwhelmed. You detox some, feel awful, then feel better, then as your body senses it is strong enough, it is able to release more toxins. You feel cruddy again as you detox, and then once you have passed that, you feel better than you did before, and so on, until you are 100% (or as close as possible). I have no idea if this is what is happening, but it is at least worth consideration, especially if you had such a good initial result AND you haven’t re ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Nothing too special, really. I am a type 1 diabetic, so can’t do just the meat and veggies thing a lot of people try. I don’t think that method works well anyway. Basically, I eat meats, veggies, potatoes, legumes, yams, sweet potatoes, organic corn products, fruit, tofu, oils and butter, unsweetened soy milk, some seeds, and I do raw juicing (mostly veggies with a little fruit. I find I detox fast enough by identifying and eliminating things that do not agree with me. For a long time I knew there was something I was doing that was making me stay sick, because I’d feel well for a bit an ...
[retrieve this message]

---

I can share my own experience with tooth pain which may at least shed some light, though I don’t have all the answers either. I too have had similar pains and also problems with acid. I finally figured out that the acid is splashing up into the jaw area causing the tooth and head pains. My dentist does not agree with this assessment, but I am 100% sure. I noticed that when I had reflux symptoms going on in the esophagus area, that is when I’d get the tooth/jaw/head pains. I have quite a bit of erosion from acid on my teeth, (which the dentist does agree with) so it does not surprise me ...
[retrieve this message]

---

No, I’d suggest adding foods, not taking any more away. Adding in fibrous foods like yams or sweet potatoes, acorn or butternut squashes, etc. I have been scared of blood in stools that turned out to be beets - it is very common. And liver support (Livatone Plus is good) sounds like it may be beneficial as the gray stool indicates a liver problem.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Hi Robin, Curious what the significance is of the ankle pic? Is that related to your question? Anyway, what do you eat on your diet? Some people restrict far too much (eating only veggies and meat, for example), and then digestion shuts down. Have you tried digestive enzymes? I agree with the other reply about a colonic - should work to flush you out. but, I would not get to the point of relying on them long-haul. Another option might be a green drink such as Amazing Grass green superfood. They usually get the system moving.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Yeah, I understand. And yes, your regular meds could be playing a role as well. Basically, if your liver is congested, the supps (and meds) can just pile on - they need to be processed through the liver too. Sometimes your body just isn’t at the stage that can utilize the supps, and anything not properly processed by the liver will spill over and then your other organs need to deal and you feel cruddy. What finally helped me was figuring out I had a tree nut allergy that was keeping my body’s stress level high, messing with my adrenals, and causing a LOT of inflammation, and my digesti ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Okay. But maybe just keep it in the back of your mind if you get stuck, that your protocol may be the very cause of the candida or of keeping it active. From someone who spent over a decade on this ride, just sayin’ . . . I hate to see others go through what I did. Best of luck!   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Actually, it really could be coincidence. I don’t know of course, but imho it is likelier that you have over-toxicity than perpetual die off. I had what I thought was perpetual die off also, so I understand what you are going through. The symptoms can be so similar it may be impossible to tell the difference w/o experimenting. And the over-toxicity may be what is keeping the candida going in your system, if indeed you do have candida. If I were you, I’d go off everything for about 3 weeks and see. You can always go back to your usual regimen if it doesn’t help. Good luck! I know how h ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Sorry, but can you help me understand something? You said you took Allicin and it cleared everything up, no die off. So, why did you then go and add in colloidal silver and all the other stuff? I really doubt you are in constant die off. Sounds more like you are taking something that is poisoning your system, so to speak. All your symptoms sounds like liver stress to me?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Chinese bitters perhaps not the best choice. Yes, it sounds like liver issue. I have had very good results with grape bitters. Also, to cleanse liver: Organic lemon juice in a glass of water, Livatone Plus supplement, NAC, fresh veggie juicing esp. celery, carrot, kale.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

No, I don’t think L-glutamine will cause direct die off. I also do not have the experience at all that it feeds candida but if I am not mistaken, you can get arguments on both sides of that issue. Like most things, it may be a personal thing. I can say it did not do that with me. One thing I will say here, not because of anything in particular you stated really, but just in general because it is an important point. Not all feelings of toxicity are ”die-off”, in fact, most are not. Die-off specifically refers to a massive amount of bad organisms dying off at once. People here often say ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Yeah, it sounds like your liver is stressing. It may mean you are doing too much too fast. Pull back a tad on your treatment. If you go too fast you’ll go backwards because anything the liver cannot handle will be, for lack of a better way to put it, thrust back into your system and you end up going in circles. Also, think about liver support. Sandra Cabot’s Livatone Plus is a good product. Your body will handle more with some liver support (not selling it. You can check my posting history. Just really like this stuff). You can also take some stress off the liver by doing stuff to s ...
[retrieve this message]

---

I suspected something like this. Allergic asthma was very bad for me at the height of my candida period. In fact, first 4 months or so after starting candida treatment, die off was strongest in the lungs, barely able to breathe and waking up to cough/spew out white foamy stuff several times during the night. I’d have to take puff after puff of my rescue inhaler just to be able to go back to sleep. It was just awful. Thank goodness that is behind me ’cause I thought I was gonna die! Thanks for sharing. :)   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Very interesting points to ponder. Thanks for bringing it to light.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Pretty much what happened to me, in that I spent my entire childhood on antibiotics b/c my mother thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I never had kids, so in my case it will stop with me, but I believe 100% in this theory.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Just curious - when you say lime, do you mean the mineral material or do you mean the fruit?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

How can you do 100 enemas a day? Each one is a process of at least, at LEAST, 10 minutes. So, that is 6 in one hour. You would have to do nothing else but enemas for 16 hours out of a 24-hour day. Unless you are not doing thorough enemas and are just squirting liquid up there willy-nilly. Also, can you even go on your own now without the help of an enema? 100 seems like an impossibly huge number of enemas. At one point, you even mentioned 200. How can you do 200 without ever sleeping? I am not doubting your cure story, but just can’t wrap my head around the enema part of it all.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Yes, it does indeed suck! Personally, I found nutritional yeast to be really bad for me, but I think it is because I seem to have an actual yeast intolerance. Could that be possible for you? I had luck with using Intestinew for LG. It really cut down my food reactions. Have you tried that? Also, if you can, I’d suggest you try to find some kind of protein source beyond the black beans such as meat, eggs, tofu. Reason being is that protein can really knock a carb craving right out of the park, as well as help with LG. In many ways, it may be better to suffer the side effects from eating ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Wanted to add, black beans did not do this to me. Is it possible there are other things you are eating at other times that might spike your craving for the beans? For example, are you eating too much fruit in the morning, which could cause you to crave more and more beans at lunch?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Do you have candida? If so, you should not be eating sweets anyway. Sugar and simple carbs feed and grow the candida population, and they actually control you when their numbers get large enough. They are hungry and need to be fed, so they make you hungry and want to be fed. Their food of choice is sugar and flour, so voila, your food of choice becomes sugar and flour. There has even been inroads into this phenomenon - how microbes control us from within - in mainstream medical circles lately, and it was sure true for me. For me, any flour source, no matter the type (could be almond f ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Actually, CellFood and hydro peroxide are completely different substances. It is not like CellFood is a high priced peroxide. CellFood is enzymes, minerals, amino acids. Nothing like that in hydro peroxide. Not tat peroxide can’t help you, I don’t know, but it is just different.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

That is awesome, Craphot. I hope they are cured and not just ”gone”. I am not cured, but I am way, way, better. I see a familiar name here and there, but most harbor good news.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Please keep us informed of progress. I see there was a thread on this a couple years ago, but I don’t know how it resolved - was there a cure? BTW, I read a disclaimer not to do this if you have any known kidney issues. Just thought I’d put it out there. G’luck!   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

I agree. I tried drugs back at the beginning of all this to no avail, and ended up with a compromised liver for my efforts. Gentle nudgings to get the body healthier, and using the herbal stuff to deter candida has been much more helpful for me.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Hmm, interesting, and thanks for digging deeper. Well, if that is the case, then there has to be more to it. I mean, so many have tried to rid themselves of candida using fluconozole and had limited to no success. Though, I do find it curious, now that I think about it, that fluconozole actually works really well on (at least my) occasional vaginal candida flares, which makes me wonder why people generally find it so ineffective for overall candida infections.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

These look like the ”rope” parasite to me. Search this forum and the web for articles and pics to compare.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

The article also offers some interesting clues regarding the role of acidity and alkalinity in Candida proliferation. And, also, hints at the idea that what we have (or had, as the case may be) is NOT systemic candida, (or we’d be dead) but really bad cases of non-systemic candida probably in tandem with other bothersome issues. At least that is what I got from it. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/scientists_discover_possible_way_to_turn_fungus_from_foe_to_friend Scientists Discover Possible Way To Turn Fungus From Foe To Friend Release Date: 09/24/2013 Study ...
[retrieve this message]

---

That makes sense to me. In my own experience, candida comes and goes inside my own body based upon my general state of health and the state of health of specific things such as: if I am sick, recovering from something like illness or dental work, if I have my leaky gut under control or not, if I have any low grade infections (such as gum infections), etc. Eating sugar can have an exacerbating effect, but it is not the cause of any candida flares I may get. As a difficult to control type 1 diabetic with frequent episodes of high blood sugars as well as lows where I NEED to eat sugar, if s ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Yes. And it was the only thing I tried that worked.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Try taking Intestinew for a month or 2. It sounds like you have a leaky gut problem to me.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Thank you. Haven’t been able to post for a couple days - guess it was the same for all . . . .   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Thanks. Do you have a favorite brand?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Thanks. Do you have any particular favorite brand?   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Or, it could simply be leaky gut. Particles (food, proteins in particular) escape via permeable gut lining and go directly into blood stream where they don’t belong and cause those symptoms.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Hmmm, well yellow indicates lack of bile or gallbladder/liver issues. I am sorry but I do not know what green means.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

You give such excellent advice! Just wanted to mention.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Have you started taking chlorella or blue green algae or spirulina or anything like that? Could be the culprit if so.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

After years of trying to figure this out, I have concluded that 10 times out of 10, anything that makes you feel crappy fairly immediately after ingestion (within 5 minutes to an hour or 2 after ingestion) is over-toxicity from your weakened body (liver) trying to cope with the substance. Die off is almost always something that happens after you have been doing something or taking something for at least a week or 2, sometimes longer. It is not that you take an antifungal and poof! within seconds the critters are dying off. You feel die off when the die off process reaches a critical mass ...
[retrieve this message]

---

Yes! This is possible. I had it in my lungs also.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

I don’t know, but I can tell you that I had very active candida for about a decade and I was tested to be low in vit. D. My number was 25. After about a year of taking D2 (of course they now recommend D3), I got up to 50. So, if I am an example, I’d say no.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---

Just a little added info. The reason is because flours, especially wheat flours, tend to feed candida. You could try your luck with Manna bread a little further on after some healing - it is yeast free and flourless. Contains whole wheat berries, but that did not seem to affect me as far as I could tell.   [End]
[retrieve this message]

---