Hi, I’m selling a second hand Beta 11 ozone generator. It was only used for 6 months by the previous owner and I never used it myself. It is in very good condition and comes with various accessories including self-caths, tubing, ear adaptor etc. to be used for ear, rectal and vaginal insufflation, and for making ozonated water. Ive been told that its worth $1200 but I am happy to negotiate a lower price. Send me a private msg if interested.   [End]
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What sort of metal detox have you tried? If you went crazy, you weren’t taking the right supps or taking too much. No it wont come out after a year on its own if its in the organs/brain. Cutlers is the best for chelation, you can take it very slow and stay in control of the process as far as possible. I have also gone ’crazy’ but if I take very low doses, I’m fine. I’m not saying its an easy process and it can be very slow but people are getting better who got worse doing other metal ’detoxes’ and it has cured lots of autistic children. It doesnt mean taking lots of synthetic supps, f ...
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Thanks, yes this makes sense. As long as you’re taking enough minerals and not just peeing them out, but it’s just part of the overall picture of symptoms etc.   [End]
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Most sites say a glass a day but you have to experiment till you get to your tolerance as you may get die-off/detox symptoms. I’m just taking a few teaspoons daily.   [End]
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Yes the lower the better as it has to be acidic to guard against the growth of bad bacteria, though mine still seemed to work. If it tastes ok and works, then its probably ok. http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/recipes/rejuvelac.php http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/recipes/cautions.php I’ve only been using quinoa as its so nutritious and I avoid gluten so was wary of trying wheat and rye. I will try brown rice and compare.   [End]
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I read on one site (Dom’s kefir site I think) that theh ph should be around 3.9 which makes sense as that the level of acidity is recommended for EM too, but mines testing at 6.5!.....but then I only fermented for a day or two. It still seemed to work though...its quite cleansing, I’m having more bms, so I dont know....this is the first time I’ve made it. Yes I’ve read conflicting info too about whether you’re supposed to throw away the first batch. I agree with you and the people I would trust more ie Dom, Sally Fallon and Ann Wigmore say the rejuvelac is the liquid from the sprouted g ...
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finallyfaith do you test the ph of your rejuvelac? Or do you just go by taste?   [End]
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These sell very good quality oils, inc oregano and are based in Leicester.. http://www.oliveleaf.co.uk/index.html   [End]
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Hi Mr Cooties, Its not a good idea to eat grains raw due to the anti-nutrients like phytates and enzyme inhibitors which can interfere with the absorption of minerals and reduce digestion. The saponins are natural substances that protect the plant but are mildly toxic so possibly thats what made you feel ill. There might have been moulds on it too, I’ve found that grains flakes eg millet and quinoa have moulds. Rinsing, soaking and sprouting will remove/reduce the anti-nutrients. Rather than eat straight from the box rinse thoroughly first, then soak for about 12 hrs or more in water ...
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I’ve been making quinoa rejuvelac....are you supposed to throw away the first batch of liquid? Presumably yes due to the phytates (as you do when you’re sprouting). Some sites say you can drink rejuvelac after the first soak but there isnt much info on quinoa. Also with quinoa there’s the issue of the saponins. The first batch did taste nice though...sweet, but I chucked it away as I wasnt sure. Any rejuvelac pros here? Anne   [End]
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I’ve been making quinoa rejuvelac....are you supposed to throw away the first batch of liquid? Presumably yes due to the phytates (as you do when you’re sprouting). Some sites say you can drink rejuvelac after the first soak but there isnt much info on quinoa. Also with quinoa there’s the issue of the saponins. The first batch did taste nice though...sweet, but I chucked it away as I wasnt sure. Any rejuvelac pros here? Anne   [End]
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Hi Megabite, most of us are newbies here too and just getting familiar with the whole EM thing. I bought a kit that brews at a set temperature as I live in the normally cold UK. There seems to be contradictory opinions about what is the best temp. EM guru Vinny Pinto says it should be brewed at 90-100 F and for a few weeks tho some brew for just a week. Depends on what you want....you get more antioxidants if you brew for longer periods. Depending where you live in the world room temp may be fine. For ratios the standard seems to be 1:1:20 so something like 50mls EM mother culture, 50ml ...
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I agree you are definitely going through a detox. I had the hot/fever like feeling too once or twice, pre the hot weather so I knew it was the EM....its just the body’s way of killing of bad microbes. You’re in the UK I presume?? I love this hot weather! I need less sleep too, about 6-7 hrs. Yes if you want to create a list I’ll include my experiences so far. Anne   [End]
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I think you’re getting me mixed up with someone else?...I’m in the UK. Anne   [End]
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Hi animalcollective, its understandable to be hesitant but the only answer is to try it for yourself. I’m one of the ones who felt worse after several days but that probably says more about the state of my body than the EM itself, given the small amount I was taking. I’m very new to EM and in the experimental stage and finding what works for me. I know other people drink it with no problems. I felt bad yes, my gut got worse as if I had more of an overgrowth....not the worst I have ever felt no, plus I’m dealing with lots of issues. I went back to my ’normal’ state when I stopped taking ...
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I think it was just blocked elimination pathways, so ”stuff” trying to make its way out through the skin but very intersting all the same. I do drink plenty of water but not always with the EM no. I find it works best for me on an empty stomach yes, esp before bed or between meals. With meals, it reacts with the food too much and makes me feel more spacey. Cheers Mag.   [End]
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The stuff that comes with the kit is food grade so there’s nothing to worry about if thats what you mean. I’m not worried about if being safe, I was just wondering if once its made the air would affect the quality of it. The ready made drinks are very expensive but its a personal choice at the end of the day. Anne   [End]
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Another (strange) thing that happened when I went through the strong gut clearing stage after a few days on EM is I developed two long thin scratch marks and a couple of smaller ones on my body. At the time I thought I’d just done it myself but they didnt look like normal scratches that you get when you scratch yourself and besides I would’ve remembered...they were very ”controlled” scratches. Now I’ve heard this is a symptom of lyme.....apparently during herxes these cat-like scratches suddenly come out of nowhere. I dont know if it’s specific to lyme though and I’ve never been tested/ ...
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If the amount of air in the bottle affects the quality of the EM and reduces it effectiveness. I’ve been told it does, and that its a good idea to siphon into smaller bottles as you drink it. I’ve only been having a teaspoonful a day so that would be very impractical! According to info I got from Vinny’s website though, it doesn’t really matter. I store mine in a bottle (glass with plastic over the top, with a small hole....it hasn’t exploded yet!) but it didnt fill to the top so there’s lots of air space in there since I bottled it. Ph has stayed the same...around the 3 mark so I a ...
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I checked with spectrumwellbeing today (where I got my EM fermenting kit from) and it looks like the EM they sell is SCD world EM, so its definitely food grade and safe for humans. It seems there are only 1 or 2 kosher EM cultures in the world and this is one of them. It comes from one of their SCD’s recommended suppliers in the Netherlands.....apparently we’re not allowed to ship from SCD Germany directly, or they’re not allowed to ship to us for legal reasons. em-naturally-active.com is the website for these suppliers....if you go there, you’ll find more info about EM and other liste ...
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My kit only fermented at between 23-25 C (73-77 F). It was ready after a week. I got virtually no gas with it at all yet it obviously worked really well though I dont know how long it will keep its potency. How come you’re brewing yours at much higher temps? Is it to get extra antioxidant effect?   [End]
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Hi Mag, for regular probiotic supplements, the bacteria are normally listed plus the amounts. Also there’s been recent changes to EU law, which requires that every ingredient on nutritional supplements has to be listed. But with EM, presumably as its not sold for human comsumption there must be no requirement as there’s no list of bacteria on my bottle of mother culture. They give you a general discription with the instructions....listing lactic acid bacteria, yeasts, actinomycetes, photosynthetic bacteria and fungi. The drink I mentioned in the post to Gooner is sold for human consu ...
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The drinks are horrendously expensive so dont bother with them. I found this one, it looks good but have you seen the price, costs more or less the same as my kit which makes 5 litres... http://www.livingsoil.co.uk/products/xtra_em.html Also the people at the place where I got the kit from told me these drinks are actually sterilised which presumably kills off some of the bacteria anyway but I dont know how true that is. Kombucha tea is an excellent thing to take as an overall body detoxifier/balancer. Its not the same as EM...though it does contain some probiotic acids...lactic ...
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Hi Gooner, I got a fermenting starter kit from here.... http://www.spectrumwellbeing.co.uk/acatalog/em.html Though if you can find a way of keeping it at a consistent temperature like in an insulated box with a heater you could just get the mother culture and molasses and do it that way. Anne   [End]
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Thanks to Garcia for requesting this forum. Hi Megan, I’m an EM newbie too. I used an EM fermenting kit (EM plus BSM to activate it). I posted my exps so far on the candida forum but in brief I had some great effects initially which lasted about 10 days. I started slow on 1 tspn a day as I’m fairly sensitive, I had a headache then much easier bowel movements. After a few days it got my digestive system moving big time and cleared a lot of stuff out and I had the most amazing improvements in energy (I have cfs/dysbiosis/adrenal, mercury problems). Moved up to 2 and sometimes 3 tspns so ...
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Thanks Mag, yes I’ll stay in touch. Thats really interesting you can tolerate it more now on raw and must be so encouraging for you. I know you take in a lot of other probiotics so this must all be helping. Ultimately it is about what we put in our bodies....the conditions in my gut are not yet optimal which will partly explain my reaction.....I eat mostly cooked foods though I do eat some raw...I digest it well *sometimes* esp sprouts but I eat too many nuts, they’re my achilles heal...i know its the minerals I want from them, magnesium especially. So I think this is partly why my dig ...
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Maggie I got it from here... http://www.spectrumwellbeing.co.uk/acatalog/em.html But there are other sellers, see this website... http://www.em-naturally-active.com/Uk/index.htm click on ’Resellers’ My gut feels a lot more normal since stopping the EM actually, it’ll just be a case of playing it by ear. Good news about the DE, thanks for letting me know. I’ll be interested to hear if going raw works for you, so do post when you can, take care, Anne   [End]
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Good luck with the raw diet Maggie, you sound well prepared for it and in tune with what your body needs. Austin sounds like a great place! Yes when you’ve been ill for a while, you really value access to good quality food. I’m lucky too, there’s an excellent organic supermarket called Out of This World just 5 mins walk from me....theres only 3 of them in the whole of the UK. Its not that big but sells a great variety of stuff you cant get in the regular chains, apart from food, a lot of chemical free stuff too...shampoos, household stuff etc. They’re very ethical too....mostly free tra ...
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God that’s scary, at least you’re getting the stuff out. Despite what they are, they’re fantastic photos.... the last two are quite beautiful...almost like works of art!   [End]
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Oh that sounds really tough what you’re going through, sorry to hear. The skin problem you have, maybe it’s pyroluria or porphyria? Both can cause photosensitivity and depression... http://www.nutritional-healing.com.au/content/articles-content.php?heading=Py... http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/p/porphyria/symptoms.htm Pyroluria is diagnosed through a kryptopyrrole urine test and if positive you need more zinc and B6. But it may well all be metal related....if you have porphyria then a porphyrin test should reveal this too... and a fractionated urine porphyrin test is actual ...
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Hi Gooner, I think its partly related to metals, alongside nutritional deficiencies/poor diet, antibiotics, vaccines, poor quality water, stress etc Getting it under control depends on so many factors....what stage you are at, the level of toxic load and metals you have, how mineral depleted you are, stress levels, how compromised your thyroid and adrenals are..... if you’re not suffering from so many deficiencies, it makes it a lot easier to bring balance back to the body. The thing with metals is that they can seriously impair cell and gland function and absorption and utilisation of ...
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Hi Gooner, I think its partly related to metals, alongside nutritional deficiencies/poor diet, antibiotics, vaccines, poor quality water, stress etc Getting it under control depends on so many factors....what stage you are at, the level of toxic load and metals you have, how mineral depleted you are, stress levels, how compromised your thyroid and adrenals are..... if you’re not suffering from so many deficiencies, it makes it a lot easier to bring balance back to the body. The thing with metals is that they can seriously impair cell and gland function and absorption and utilisation of ...
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All of these concerns are something that need to be addressed, that is why ideally you would be able to consult with a clinician concerning these concerns. But as it stands, because of the lag in marketing, more often than not, this information comes from the patients then works into the knowledge base of the healthcare providers. To put this mildly, Mr.Jordan Rubin has done us all a disservice in that had he provided us with this information six years ago, the clincians would have the experience to give you good answers. Yes absolutely. No doubt JR has justified it to himself one way o ...
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Hi, you would have to get an adaptor but I dont know if that would affect its efficiency. The instructions dont say what temp its fermented at but I’m sure I read somewhere, can’t remember where now, that its between 90-92 degrees I think. I would email the UK company and ask them. Anne   [End]
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Ok, very interesting, thanks for that info Shroom, Anne   [End]
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Thanks Maggie ;-) yes it makes sense to have as wide variety of bacteria as possile. I would feel more comfortable taking in yoghurt etc but kefir/yoghurt are sulphur foods which I have to be careful with...moves mercury around and makes me feel worse. Another complication! Though I’ve been thinking of making kefir again and just taking small amounts and see how things go. The question for me was how much of this was a healing crisis...and how much was an increase in bad bacteria. Otherwise for gut support I’m taking aloe vera and slippery elm, plus a bit of n-acetyl-glucosamine whic ...
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Thanks you two, hadnt got round to posting on Vinny’s group just yet. Not sure if it was a general healing crisis or a rise in more dysbiotic bacteria leading to a healing crisis....probably a mixture of both but very confusing when you have brain fog. Its really powerful so take it slow if you’re going to try it. Anne   [End]
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Hi all, Just to update on my EM experiences. Been drinking it for two weeks (just 1-3 tspns a day). As I posted last week, it worked wonders at first, really got my gut moving and cleared out what looked like old fecal matter though I didnt really see a whole lot of candida. I was absorbing much more from my food and my energy skyrocketed at times, I felt the best I’d felt in a long long time in terms of physical energy. However, as from a couple of days ago...my gut has become more and more congested (though I’m not bloated), I’m more constipated and lost my appetite, and I’ve been ...
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Wind is a good sign yes...it means the good microbes are outnumbering the bad. It will lessen as bowel toxicity reduces. Its not the EM causing the sulphur smell, it depends what you’ve been eating eg high sulphur foods are eggs, nuts and if they’re lying undigested in your gut....the EM is just forcing it out. Take HCL and/or enzymes or extra good salt. I’ve actually been getting unusually healthy smelling BMs! Anne   [End]
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Hi Maggie, It was a doctor who told me that...he uses Humet-R (fulvic acid, humic acids, minerals). He said it protects against the effects of metal toxicity, not chelate, though I know its promoted as a chelator. He’s very knowledgeable doc, seems quite clued up, he’s worked in nutritional medicine for 15+ yrs. Also what I learnt from Andy Cutler, a PhD chemist (www.noamalgam.com) is that a chelator should have 2 thiols (sulphur compounds) (so DMSA, DMPS, ALA). He’s been researching mercury for over a decade. He’s also had great results with autistic kids, and seriously poisoned people ...
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Thanks Maggie, yes I agree about supporting companies with integrity, that is ideal, but in practice thats not always possible if cost is a factor. It does look like superfoods ship internationally, whereas Morningstar don’t so I’ll see what the cost is if I decide to go ahead, depends on other things too....whether I think it would suit me. You can’t get hardly anything like this in the UK, just Maximol and one or two others, that’s all it appears. The US is way ahead of us as usual. Fulvic acid seems a really interesting substance, a great detoxifier, whether it chelates or not is ...
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I’m in the UK and this was the one I got..... http://www.spectrumwellbeing.co.uk/acatalog/em.html You get enough mother culture and molasses to make 5 litres, it makes 1 litre at a time. Its had a powerful effect on me, just taking small amounts, so the quality of the EM and the molasses is obviously very good. You dont need a kit though, it was just convenient for me. Anne   [End]
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Thanks Magnolia, yes I’ll keep updating on the EM. Morningstar was just a guess really after I googled fulvic acid plus I think you had mentioned them in another post so the name rang a bell. Anne   [End]
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Yes and it was a problem for me, I had quite a drop in blood sugar a few hours later in the drink with lemon.....tearful, depressed, irritable, craving salt....its because it’s so quickly absorbed, I used very little molasses, just 1/3 tspn but I’m prone to blood sugar drops with adrenal problems. When I tried it with calcium hydroxide though it wasnt as bad. I think calcium helps to balance blood sugar. Experiment with doses. Anne   [End]
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You dont need a kit. I bought one just to make my life easy for the first few batches. I live in the UK, temperatures are variable and I dont have my heating on so it was easier to rely on a kit to keep the temperature consistent. It was a bit of a rip-off as its small...one litre, but I decided to sacrifice the extra pennies. Anne   [End]
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One of the fulvic companies has a story about an Indian medicine man finding the stuff So no doubt if you bought their product you’d achieve spiritual enlightenment too??? lol! Yes its so immoral, people are vulnerable and desperate to get well so very easy to exploit. The cost aspect too, of getting well...if you’re unable to work its a struggle. I hate the inequality of it. I’ve been ill for over a decade after a course of Hep B vaccines which did a number on my immune system and induced dysbiosis/candida, liver, adrenal, thyroid problems (tho I’d had signs before this, eg local ca ...
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I only used raw organic goats milk, but I still got mucousy sometimes....it might have been a leaky gut problem actually. Thanks for the good EM info. A week was the bare minimum for my AEM and I was impatient to get started on it anyway. I’ll definitely brew for longer from now on and start adding things to it. Anne   [End]
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Hi Magnolia, Yes the website is terrible for real information and they try to promote it through a romantic description. I have the info (Water Oz only send out the list of minerals by post!). It contains 74 minerals/metals, no mention of fulvic acid. They told me its from an ancient sea bed in Nevada, from humus. I was curious to see how it compares to the fulvic acid mineral supps. Its quite powerful but I can only tolerate a few drops a day, if I take too much, my thyroid gets irritated....so maybe the kelp ref is true. It was a long while ago but I think Maximol did have a taste, ...
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Magnolia, I take Water of Life by Water Oz (from humet, fossilised kelp)...have you ever tried those and if so how would you say they compared with fulvic acid minerals? I tried Maximol yrs ago which has fulvic acid but was too detoxifying for me at the time so discontinued it. Thanks, and very interesting website btw! Anne   [End]
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I literally only heard about EM about 1-2 wks ago here on CZ and read yours and Magnolia’s posts. Jumped straight in and bought a fermenting kit. Fermented for one week (it was definitely ready....tasted foul! very bitter) and been taking it for 3 days and had the following benefits already (on just 1 tspn a day!).... - more BMs and darker healthier colour, even if I eat too much fat - a ’full’/satiated feeling in my stomach (normally I’m constantly hungry or have no appetite) - food cravings have decreased a lot presumably as it’s increasing absorption. I’ve also had more energy a ...
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http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_find_doctor.html#what_look...   [End]
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No it’s definitely not safe. She’ll have to have them removed first. The risks are redistribution of mercury in the internal organs eg the brain which could cause long-term damage. The main mercury source has to be removed first then move on to chelating the body/brain. As far as Andy Cutlers protocol (see link at top of page) is concerned, its safe to use either DMPS or DMSA a few days after the last filling is out, then wait 3 mths before using alpha lipoic acid. Please visit these groups for lots more info about chelation and issues associated with it eg diet, the right supplements.. ...
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Hi moreless, Again I agree about the right intestinal flora. Probiotics have helped me a bit but as from today I’m experimenting with something called ”effective microorganisms”. It seems to have a lot of potential. I’m working my way through mercury chelation, gut dysbiosis, and acid/alkaline balancing. I really hope that increasing alkalinity will somehow make chelation easier by taking the stress off the liver and kidneys. I’m feeling benefits already from what I’ve been doing, eg more juicing etc. Thanks, Anne   [End]
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Thanks! So very true about the importance of digestion. We’ll see if my tolerance improves as my digestion gets better. Anne   [End]
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Thanks moreless, I did take the calcium hydroxide in the bsm, acv etc drink. I knew it was the CH causing the problem as the drink minus the CH was fine with me. Its possible I’m just very sensitive and took more than my body could handle. Anne   [End]
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Hi Wood Elf, I HAVE had mild reactions to the calcium hydroxide (the one from the chemical shop, where you got yours, Maya sent me some). I emailed them and asked about hygiene etc but they didnt get back to me. Email them and see if they reply to you. I had mild breathing problems (sounds worse than it was) plus twinges around the liver area, again nothing really bad. Also felt a bit weird in my head actually but one thing it does seem to help with is blood sugar. I used one or two teaspoons of diluted CH. I’m very sensitive to things anyway (dealing with mercury, and think I still ...
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Do an enema or two, it will take the pressure off your liver, skin and help with the low mood which is just circulating toxins as you know.   [End]
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Hi Amanda, I’ve had 2 juicers. First one I had was just a cheap one from Argos which broke down after 6 mths! I can’t remember the brand though. Then I got a champion juicer from this company. They’re not cheap but it was a good investment as they last for years. I’ve had mine 6 yrs now and it’s still going strong. It has an industrial strength motor and extracts more juice compared to some of the cheaper centrifugal ones. With the latter the pulp is still quite moist so you end up having to put it through twice. http://www.wholisticresearch.com/ecom/list.php3?catid=1&typeid=1 An ...
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Yes the moral of story is to stick with whatever works. As with anything it just depends on personal chemistry and absorption abilities. Anne   [End]
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I just had an interesting conversation with Sherridon Stock. He’s a pharmacologist turned naturopath based in Kent. He confirmed to me what you said Tina about liq mag chloride being difficult to absorb partly due to it being in water and partly as it’s inorganic. I did find this surprising as I noticed I was feeling physically relaxed after taking it but obviously I’d need a red cell mag test to confirm whether it really was being absorbed into the cells. Being an inorganic form means it reacts and competes with other inorganic minerals and hence decreases absorption unless you pre-lig ...
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Tina, Can you tell me where you read that liquid mag chloride isn’t absorbed well orally. Thanks, Anne   [End]
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Tina, the Nutricentre sell a liquid magnesium chloride though it’s not listed on their website. The brand is ”E-lyte” and it’s £9 something for a bottle pre any discounts. I’ve only just started using it so dont know how long it will last (maybe a month or so). I know iherb do a few liq mag chlorides which are much cheaper but obviously the overall order has to be worth the standard $20 P&P to the UK. Anne   [End]
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Hi James, The point of getting a b12 test done on the NHS is that if she is low, they have no excuse not to give her injections. You’re right, tests are often misinterpreted and a lot of tests themselves are totally inadequate and not sophisticated enough to pick up deep-rooted biochemical problems. So even if the b12 levels are considered ”normal” which is likely, it doesn’t mean it’s getting into the cells. Then you know you have to go private for the shots. Re glutathione, it’s to do with its chemistry. Basically being a sulphur compound it can stir up too many metals without chel ...
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Acetyl-l-carnitine has many benefits... http://www.smart-drugs.com/info-alc.htm http://www.nubrain.com/CARNITINE.html In mercury toxic people the mitochdondria is poisoned, leading to fatigue and brain fog. ALC can help as it increases ATP production which means more physical and mental energy. It also alleviates depression. Also for many of us low blood pressure is more of a problem due to adrenal insufficiency. Best wishes, Anne   [End]
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James, I know you’re in a really difficult situation and this isn’t really the appropriate forum to be giving advice but just a few things... Diet is most important so I would stop all sweets and chocolates though I know this is probably nigh impossible in a care home. Get an adult care social worker to assess your mums situation and whether shes receiving appropriate care (obviously not!), change care homes or move her back home. You can certainly ask to get your mums B12 levels checked on the NHS, this is a routine blood test. If they are low, she could get injections. There is ...
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Hi Janey, I’ve never taken DMPS and side-effects will vary from person to person. 10mg is a pretty low dose to start on but again as I’ve said quite a few times, you must support yourself with the right supplements, esp adrenal and thyroid, antioxidants etc. This is crucial. You may be fine or you might find that its still too much, no-one can predict how you’re going to feel. I found I had to stop chelation to get stronger endocrine support though I was taking ALA which you’re not. One idea would be to try the b12 first and see if you feel stronger on that before taking the dmps. It ...
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Take 4 X 500mg caps or the powder, whatever is convenient. Get some taurine powder too, I’m sure it will help you. Anne   [End]
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Hi Janey, Yes aceytl-l-carnitine can really help with memory problems - I take between 1-2gms a day. It wasnt the only thing that helped at that time, some of it was just increased bile flow/liver cleansing from other things I was doing and drinking a lot of water which dont forget is essential for clearing the head. Dont forget taurine - take up to 3000gm a day (work up to this). Taking some at bedtime will help you sleep and wake up with a clearer head. It increases bile flow so helps get rid of toxins. The B12 shots are a great idea and will also help with brain function. Be ...
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Janey, memory problems are very common with mercury toxicity so don’t worry too much - it will get better eventually. The supplements should help to some degree. Anne   [End]
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James, vits, mins and antioxidants should help a bit even if the underlying cause is mercury. B12 injections are known to help with MS (can get on the NHS or privately). Cut out all junk food and bad fats, substituting good quality omega 3 and 6 fats and lecithin (for fat metabolism). Even cutting out dairy and gluten can help some people. If your mum is able to go through with amalgam removal seriously look into Andy Cutlers (www.noamalgam.com) ideas for (POST amalgam removal) mercury detox. Get hold of his book Amalgam Illness - click on link at top of this page. Personally I dont ...
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WG: Are you serious? :) I mean, are you looking for a qualifier like ”all else being equal?” Funny you should say that ;) all things being equal the first diet is much healthier with less chemicals etc but its still lacking...no veg, too acidic and too high in phosphorous and would put stress on your kidneys. I’m not suggesting good health ONLY depends on the ratio of acid v alkaline foods eaten.   [End]
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When you eat for health, you eat to get adequate nutrients that your body needs. You can’t mix and match alkaline nutrients, or acidic nutrients, to fulfill some criterion of 60% alkaline/40% acidic and think that will give you good health. Yes at the end of the day its all about nutrients and everyone has to work out what diet suits them, depending on how well their digestion is, etc. Monitoring ph levels is a good idea (not that I ever do it). I feel much better on a 60/40 ratio or even higher (ie more alkaline), high in veggies. Unfortunately can’t take fruit and if I eat too much p ...
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The truth is that even in very mercury-toxic people, we are talking about minute amounts of mercury, something that would be insignificant to a given cell’s acid-alkaline balance. I thought this was one of the main consequences of mercury toxicity...poor mineral transport into the cells.   [End]
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If I had an acid diet of meats, whole grains, plums, legumes, and cranberry juice, would I be better off than someone whose diet was equally acid from eating fast foods? I don’t know! ;) It’s too general a question to answer and would depend on lots of factors.   [End]
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And chelating agents like DMSA and ALA are acidic. Yes, I’m not saying we should avoid acidic substances. I mean avoid ’toxins’ as much as poss as they increase acidity and deplete minerals. Anne   [End]
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And moreover you can’t extrapolate from this that our bodies need more alkalinity than what has been found in physically robust traditional communities throughout history. No I meant restoring the balance to the cell which in its normal state is slightly on the alkaline side but I know this is a far from simple process. Anne   [End]
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That’s great Janey! Flax and borage are different oils....borage is omega 6, flax omega 3. Go for fish oil or a mixed blend like Udos rather than flax on its own or both as you definitely need fish oil. Anne   [End]
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Hi WG :) Its to do with people not clarifying what they mean. Acids and bases are both essential and appear in different balances in different parts of the body but what people are talking about when they say to alkalise is increasing CELLULAR alkalinity. Its the cell that should be slightly on the alkaline side as Wilson says. At least that’s what I was referring to. Potassium is a great alkalizer and is naturally found within the cell and one of its roles it to get rid of body wastes. The problem with people nowadays is that they eat so much crap, overly processed foods, bad fats, ...
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Ok you just sounded like you were an authority on it, rather than saying ”the company claims” etc. (BTW it was half in jest when I used the word ’evil’, it isn’t a word I would normally use, even though I’m not a fan of MLMs.) Its healthy to have some skepticism esp if you’ve been ill for a while, tried various products that didn’t work or reacted badly to! I’m open to hearing about any product that can help and the company have made some fantastic claims about this one. If it’s affordable, great! If its a new product on the market then its too early to say and we need more testimon ...
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Copper reduces oestrogen excretion and vice versa....oestrogen reduces copper excretion (pgs 113 and 152 in AI) so it certainly fits with you Janey.   [End]
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Anything that helps to make the cells more alkaline is going to be of great benefit. Whether it actually chelates is another issue. For $200 you’d expect it to work a miracle! I mean really, is there any justification for charging that much, apart from greed?! Those evil MLM companies! Are you sure you’re not a distributor?! You seem to know a lot about it. Anne   [End]
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I’ve no idea if it will suit you or not, too many ingredients in there. Anne   [End]
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Ashwagandha...take between 500-1000mg a day. Though you might end up needing something stronger. Milk thistle...3 X 100mg a day Nordic Naturals is a safe fish oil. Anne   [End]
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It contains cysteine and methionine which could make you feel worse. I’d avoid it.   [End]
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i go thru these periods of feeling good..then feeling horrible it could be that my body is just naturally dumping stuff out? (since i don’t chelate). Don’t know, possibly. Keep notes to see if how you feel is related to what you eat (sulphur foods), or particular supplements. * do you think i should stopped the addition calcium and take the extra magnesium? (some ppl say you have to have a 2:1 ration with cal/mag.) True but with mercury toxicity magnesium levels are low so better to take at a 1:1 ratio with cal or even more mag. * do you think i should start taking milk thistl ...
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Janey, why do you want to take ALA? You have to sort the copper out first! Remember? Are you taking adrenal or thyroid support? Anne   [End]
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I just noticed that the supp you felt more brain fogged on contains calcium and potassium - combined with your cal/mag/vit d that could possibly be giving you too much calcium in relation to magnesium. With your anxiety, it sounds like you need more magnesium, plus with mercury toxicity magnesium is normally low, though calcium is important too much can prevent magnesium absorption. Also it contains potassium which can cause problems for some people. You felt better on your regular multi which just made me think. I could be wrong but it just stood out to me. Taking a multi can confuse ...
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Hi Janey, On the face of it the Rockwell one looks good but it doesnt have enough molybdenum in there though, you’ll need more than that. Andy recommends taking up to 1000mcg. If you feel better on your regular one, I would guess it’s because it contains no calcium or potassium and has a good dose of magnesium. Anne   [End]
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Janey, the problem with multis is if you get a reaction, you dont know whats causing it. Yes Andy says to be careful with manganese. The brain fog could be due to the wrong balance eg with your nervousness you probably need more magnesium than calcium. Also some people cant tolerate potassium. Or maybe you’re having a healing reaction, that can cause brain fog too so it’s hard to know. See how you feel after another few days on it. Sorry I can’t suggest any particular multi (I take individual ones)...visit iherb.com and see if there are any which are more suitable with a better ...
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Everything looks fine apart from msm and glutathione cream which are both sulphur compounds and best avoided. Really though you could have an intolerance to any one of them as can be the case with many us so you wouldn’t know if they suit you until you try them. B12 shots are good. You still need adrenal and thyroid support and without knowing whats in your multi possibly more minerals eg magnesium and antioxidants. Plus you still have copper as an issue. Milk thistle is fine, so side effects. No my brain has never throbbed as such, but I do get strange sensations and a ’tig ...
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